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4-day Hike in Obertal valley

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  • Info point Hopfriesen in Obertal valley with hiking map and trail signage
    / Info point Hopfriesen in Obertal valley with hiking map and trail signage
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz
  • / Nickel Museum - historic smelting furnace in Obertal valley
    Photo: Astrid Perner, Tourismusverband Schladming
  • / Giglachbach creek at the ascent to Lackneralm
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / Lackneralm - situated along the historic miners' trail
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / Crossing Giglachbach creek at Lackneralm
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / View of Lackneralm
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / View from high above to Lackneralm alp in the Obertal valley
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / The branch-off to Landauersee lake (to the right)
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz
  • / Landauersee lake in Obertal valley
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz , Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / Giglachalmen alp in spring
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / A family on a hike through Giglachkar cirque
    Photo: Herbert Raffalt, Tourismusverband Schladming - Herbert Raffalt
  • / Ignaz-Mattis-Hütte, Giglachsee Lake and Lungauer Kalkspitze
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Tourismusverband Schladming - Gerhard Pilz
  • / Giglachsee Hütte chalet, Preuneggtal valley
    Photo: Herbert Raffalt, Herbert Raffalt
  • / Upper and Lower Giglachsee Lakes
    Photo: Herbert Raffalt, Tourismusverband Schladming
  • / View towards Giglachseen Lakes from Vetternkar cirque
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz , Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / Remains of historic miners' housing in the Vetternkar cirque
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / Ruins of historic miners' housing at Vetternkar cirque - Engelkarspitze mountain in the backdrop
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / Remaining walls of historic miners' housing at Vetternkar cirque - Rotmandlspitze and Sauberg summits in the background
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Tourismusverband Schladming
  • / Section of trail #702 to Rotmandlspitze with steel rope
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz
  • / View from Rotmandlspitze into Vetternkar cirque and to Giglachseen Lakes
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / View towards Sauberg and Kruckeck summits from Rotmandlspitze
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz , Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / View from Rotmandlspitze into Duisitzkar cirque with Buckelkarseen Lakes in the foreground
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz , Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / Trail through scree below Sauberg summit - Krukeckscharte lying ahead
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz
  • / Steel rope below Krukeckscharte ridge
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Tourismusverband Schladming
  • / View from Krukeckscharte ridge into Neualmkar cirque
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / Keinprechthütte chalet is already in view
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / View across Keinprechthütte lodge and Hüttensee Lake to the historic mining district
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / Scenery at Hüttensee Lake below Keinprechthütte chalet
    Photo: Martin Huber, Photo Austria - Martin Huber
  • / Keinprechthütte in Obertal valley
    Photo: Kreativwerk, Keinprechthütte
  • / Impressive summits surrounding Neualmkar cirque in Obertal
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / Beautiful Neualmkar cirque - Keinprechthütte is not far anymore
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / Neualm alp and chalets in Obertal valley
    Photo: Martin Huber, Photo Austria - Martin Huber
  • / Lookout to Obertal valley along the trail to Duisitzkar lake
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Tourismusverband Schladming
  • / Beautifully the trail winds through the forest towards Duisitzkar
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz
  • / Duisitzkarsee lake, Obertal valley, Rohrmoos, Schladming
    Photo: Herbert Raffalt, Tourismusverband Schladming - Herbert Raffalt
  • / Fahrlechhütte, Obertal valley, Rohrmoos, Schladming
    Photo: Herbert Raffalt, Tourismusverband Schladming - Herbert Raffalt
  • / Duisitzkarseehütte, Obertal valley, Rohrmoos, Schladming
    Photo: Herbert Raffalt, Tourismusverband Schladming
  • / Duisitzkar cirque with the Duisitzkarsee Lake and the 2 chalets in Obertal
    Photo: Gerhard Pilz, Gerhard Pilz - www.gpic.at
  • / Eschachhütt'n, Obertal valley, Rohrmoos, Schladming
    Photo: Eiblhof-Eschachhüttn, Tourismusverband Schladming
m 2500 2000 1500 1000 20 15 10 5 km Rotmandlspitze Nickelmuseum - Schmelzofen Duisitzkarsee Keinprechthütte Giglachseen Landauersee

A hiking tour over 4 days with 3 overnight stays in mountain chalets. The tour is also suitable for families with kids. The duration of daily stages varies between 2.5 and 4 hours.

moderate
22.6 km
10:00 h
1676 m
1539 m

The 4-day hike in Obertal valley is a beautiful multiple-day hike for hikers who only want to walk shorter stages and really want to enjoy the time on the trail, at the lakes, and the chalets. The route is also possible for families with kids who alreay have some experience in alpine hiking. Along this route there are several lakes, historic sites, beautiful alps, impressive views, cragged mountains and cosy chalets. Highlights are the picturesque Landauersee Lake, Duisitzkarsee Lake, the Nickel museum right at the beginning of the tour, the historic miners' settlements at Vetternkar cirque or the summit of Rotmandlspitze.

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Author
Gerhard Pilz
Updated: December 05, 2019

Difficulty
moderate
Technique
Stamina
Experience
Landscape
Highest point
Rotmandlspitze summit, 2453 m
Lowest point
Hiking trail head Hopfriesen, 1063 m
Best time of year
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Safety information

The 2nd day can be quite challenging for unexperienced hikers. The trail via Rotmandlspitze summit takes you to high-alpine terrain, ascending and descending via extensive scree. Take great care!

Changes in weather patterns, quick falls in temperature, thunderstorms, wind, fog and snow are some of the dangers that can be encountered on a hiking tour. Hosts of alpine huts and mountain refuges have a lot of experience in the mountains and can give good advice about weather and the trails. Poor equipment, overestimation of one's own capabilities, carelessness, poor personal constitution and/or wrong judgement  can lead to critical situations. In case of thunderstorms: avoid summits, ridges and steel ropes.

GPS data and orienteering

Available GPS data - just like hiking maps - is only a guidance for orientation and can never depict a trail exactly with all its details. Especially at dangerous spots it is essential to judge on site how to proceed.

In an emergency please call:

  • 140 - for Alpine emergencies (all over Austria)
  • 112 - European GSM emergency number

Equipment

Ankle-high hiking boots recommended.

A well-packed backpack is helpful and especially when touring Alpine terrain a tuque, gloves, a windproof jacket and pants are standard equipment. Good, waterproof shoes, sun glasses, sun cream and sufficient beverages are essential too. Torch light, a map of the area, knie and a small first-aid kit should also be in the backpack.

Tips, hints and links

From the valley head at Eschachalm further into Obertal the landowners do not allow to bring along dogs.

Tourist information: www.schladming.com

Information about bus schedules: www.planaibus.at

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Start

Hiking trail head Hopfriesen, Obertal (1062 m)
Coordinates:
Geographic
47.317000, 13.688544
UTM
33T 400887 5241226

Destination

Hiking trail head Eschachalm, Obertal

Turn-by-turn directions

Day 1 - Up to Giglachseen Lakes

The first day of the 4-day hike in Obertal valley starts with the transfer to Obertal, which is best done with the Planai bus from Schladming or Rohrmoos. From the hiking trail head in Hopfriesen you follow the historic miners' route n° 776 towards Giglachseen Lakes. Right at the beginning you can make a 5-minute detour to the historic nickel smelting furnace, which is open as a museum nowadays (the museum is open Wednesday and Friday mornings).

From the smelting furnace you hike up a sunken road through clear forest and then pass by underneath a steep rock face, where you get a great view back to your starting point. A bit further you then pass by Lackneralm chalet (private only), where you again cross over Giglachbach creek and continue on alternating sections of hiking trail and forest lanes up to the "Knappenkreuz" waypoint near Landauersee Lake. Here, we recommend you make a detour to the picturesque lake.

From Landauersee Lake you hike back to the main trail and continue towards Giglachseen Lakes. Soon the ascent of the trail gets more flat and you hike through the beautiful Giglach alps. Along the creek you continue your hike, where you pass by the remains of miners' housing. Soon you reach the lower end of the larger Giglachsee Lake. Now your opportunities for an overnight stay are not far anymore: Ignaz-Mattis-Hütte chalet is situated above the lower, bigger Giglachsee Lake, Giglachseehütte chalet lies above the upper, smaller Giglachsee Lake.

Day 2 - on historic trails

A good start into the day is taking a loop around the 2 Giglachseen Lakes, which will give you new views on the lakes and the cirque with the surrounding summits. From the chalets at the lower end of the lakes you follow trail n° 702 into Vetternkar cirque and towards Rotmandlspitze. The trail ascends modestly at first and you enjoy the great view to the lakes and the summits of Steirische and Lungauer Kalkspitze.

Once you are in Vetternkar you reach a trail junction at the remains of historic miners' housing. A short side trip in the direction of Vetternscharte ridge brings you to the turquoise coloured Knappenseen lakes. Back at the trail junction you continue towards Rotmandlspitze - the trail now ascends quite steep on the East face of the mountain. You ascend via switchbacks through the red scree while enjoying great views of Giglachseen and Knappenseen Lakes.

On the summit of Rotmandlspitze (2,453 m) - also called "Rotmandl" - you have earned a break and can enjoy the view to the West into Giglachkar cirque and to the Duisitzkar cirque to the North. From Rotmandl you continue along the trail beneath "Sauberg" mountain. Through scree you reach Kruckeckscharte ridge, where the trail starts to fall a bit steeper. The quite steep and narrow path to Keinprechthütte chalet is the last part of the hike for this day. The mountains around the chalet used to be mining sites through several centuries. Cones of debris still remind of these times today.

Day 3 - a relaxing hike to Duisitzkarsee Lake

The 3rd day is a really relaxing one. From Keinprechthütte you start your way downhill to the Neualm chalets (no refreshment stop available) where you can enjoy the sun on the chalets terrace or next to the creek.

At Neualm you turn-off left towards Duisitzkarsee Lake. A steady up and down takes you through clear forest and fields of dwarf pines. More than once you get great views to the valley head of Obertal valley. An all-together short hike brings you to Duisitzkarsee Lake. Once you reach it, you know why it is one of the most photographed tarns in the Schladminger-Dachstein region.

At the lake there are two chalets available for an overnight stay - Fahrlechhütte chalet right next to the lake, and a few meters up Duisitkarseehütte lake. In summer the lake is good for refreshing your tired feet, while some even go for a swim on very hot summer days.

Day 4 - a short hike to the valley

On the last day only a short hike back to Obertal valley awaits you. The hike is only short and takes you around 1.5 hours. For the descent you can choose between a forest lane and a hiking trail. Once you reach the valley at Eschachalm, walk up to Eschachhütt'n inn from where the Planai buses take you back to Rohrmoos and Schladming. From Eschachalm you can also walk to Hopfriesen in about 40 minutes, and thus reach your starting point from the 1st day.

Note


all notes on protected areas

Public transport

Public transport friendly

With the Planai buses from Schladming (Planet-Planai, Lendplatz) or Rohrmoos (Rohrmoos-Zentrum) to Obertal - bus stop "Hopfriesen". Back from "Eschachalm" in Obertal also with the Planai bus.

Getting there

From Schladming take provincial highway L722 (Rohrmoosstraße road) to Rohrmoos and at the roundabout continue on provincial highway L723 (Tälerstraße road) to the village of Untertal. In the village turn right on "Obertalstraße" road and continue to Wehrhofalm where you can park your car also for a couple of days. From Wehrhofalm it is a 30-minute-walk along the "Smelting Furnace Tour" to the hiking trail head "Hopfriesen", where the tour starts.

Parking

Parking is available at Wehrhofalm in Obertal valley.

Parking is also available at the valley terminal of Gipfelbahn Hochwurzen cable-car in Rohrmoos where you can catch the bus to the trail head.

Arrival by train, car, foot or bike

Book recommendation by the author

  • Wanderführer Schladming-Dachstein von Herbert Raffalt, erhältlich im Tourismusverband Schladming.

Author’s map recommendations

  • Hiking map Schladming, 1:25.000, available at the tourist office Schladming.
  • Hiking map Schladming-Dachstein, 1:50.000, available at the tourist office Schladming.


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Reviews

4.0
(1)
Jennifer Cripe
August 11, 2017 · Community
Pros: - beautiful scenery - Keinprechthutte Cons: - tough second day - Ignaz-Mattis Hütte Notes: - no real point in staying at Fahrlechhütte on the last day as it’s an hour downhill hike to the valley - beware that parking in Schladming is €7/day and bus ride is €20 each way for family of four (2017). Best bet is to park at Eschachalm and take bus from there to trailhead.
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Difficulty
moderate
Distance
22.6 km
Duration
10:00h
Ascent
1676 m
Descent
1539 m
Public transport friendly Loop Multi-stage route Scenic Refreshment stops available Family friendly Cultural/historical value Summit route

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